My Ex Physically Abused Our Son
Last Friday, my oldest son experienced verbal and physical abuse at the hands of his father (my soon to be ex husband). The father with whom the court sent him to live, the father he thought he could trust above everyone else - that father cornered him, jerked him, poked his forehead and chest, then put him to the ground and choked him.
I received the call from my ex about 20 minutes before my pick-up time. He said, "You'd better get here now. Marc says he's leaving and never coming back." I assumed he and Marc had argued and Marc decided to "run away" to my house. I told my ex, "I'll pick him up because it’s my weekend, but we're not going to let him run from you over this. He'll be back to you on Sunday."
Abuser Has a Sob Story
I hurried over to the house to find my ex crying on the front porch. He began telling me the story as Marc carried his things to my car...but when my ex said, "I put him on the ground and put my forearm across his neck - He said I was choking him but I wasn't choking him 'cause he could talk" ... well, that statement changed it all.
I stayed calm, thinking that if he would tell me that, then he would tell me more. There was really nothing more. I told my ex that he was wrong, that he never should have put his hands on our son, no matter what the boy said.
Both of our children were safely in my car. I didn't act angry; I merely walked away, spoke to my ex's father for a minute, and left with our boys.
Verbal and Physical Violence
The event occurred (according to his father) because Marc said, "At least I go to school, at least I TRY!" To this, his father yelled, "If you're going to compare yourself to those other pieces of s-it, then you may as well be one too!"
Among the verbal abuses thrown at my son was "If you were a soldier, you'd be dishonorably discharged" and "you little motherf-er".
During the verbal abuse, Dad physically confined Marc to the kitchen and poked him on the forehead and chest. Marc felt he was being provoked; he tried to leave. Dad told Marc if he went through that door he would put Marc on his face in the yard.
Instead, after Marc shut the door, Dad put him on his face in the kitchen.
While Dad pressed Marc’s his neck into the floor, Marc saw his grandfather walk past the glass door. He banged on the glass until his father restrained his arm. His grandfather kept walking.
Marc couldn't breathe for a time when he was "not" being choked. When he could breathe, he said, "Dad you're choking me!" and Dad said, "You're talking now, aren't you? You've never been choked!"
My son was able to get up when he promised to stand there and listen "like a man." He had to say a statement verbatim before Dad let him up. He got it wrong the first time. When standing, Marc tried to phone me for help and his father grabbed the phone and threw it against the wall.
Marc’s younger brother heard it all from outside the glass door, but was too afraid to poke his past the frame to watch.
Marc attempted to walk away from the situation four times (twice before and twice after “not” being choked), but Dad wouldn’t allow it.
Child Protective Services
That night at my house, I knew I had to tell someone. The cops were out of the picture - Marc didn't want to be involved in a police report. I didn't want to call Child Protective Services (they hadn't been able to help before!), but I felt they were my only option. I gave the woman my name and told her I hadn't been present, but I believed my son. She didn't know if they would take up an investigation or not due to Marc's age (he's 17).
They did take the case up for investigation. The boys were interviewed at school. This morning we met at my ex's house for a family sit-down with our case worker. My ex acted like himself. The case worker seems to be a smart cookie.
Tonight, our boys are safe and laughing. They're having a good time together. I am enjoying their company. I don't know exactly what tomorrow will bring, and I wish this hadn't happened to Marc. Yesterday, Marc said that although he saw it happen to me, he didn't really comprehend it.
He told me, "If it hadn't happened to me, I don't think I would ever have believed you, Mama."
Jo, K. (2011, April 14). My Ex Physically Abused Our Son, HealthyPlace. Retrieved on 2020, April 9 from https://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/verbalabuseinrelationships/2011/04/it-happened-to-him
Author: Kellie Jo Holly
The boy is 17 years old. An age that is notorious for being disrespectful and insolent. I notice it is only women who have replied to this. As sexist as it sounds, this makes a huge difference.
What do you think would have happened to the fathers power base as a parental figure, if he allowed his son to walk out on him, or didn't back up what he said he would do? Granted he shouldn't have put himself into a position where he would have to lay hands on his son. Aside from the choking, which was to far, I don't see anything that was too much.
A reason we have men these days with less conviction, morals and a sense of themselves, is due to the increasing fear of direct and sometimes aggressive discipline and guidance. The constant fear of being in trouble by CPS, prevents fathers from doing what they have to in order to properly raise a boy into a man. Therefor, that kid grows into a man that has essentialy made up his own rules and morals because no one ever set him straight in his life. There are times, small instances, that warrant a father to kick his late teenage son's ass. VERY FEW times. But, to be honest, this kids attitude definitely needed some adjustment. The father went over board, as the punishment didn't meet the crime, but he most certainly deserved a harsh ass chewing and kick in the backside.
When it comes to raising boys into respectable men, you have to fight fire with fire. The same approach should not be taken for a father raising a daughter, but what I described might be a similar response to a mother raising a daughter. I don't know, as im not a woman/mother.
It is off putting to see everyone jump on the bandwagon, condemning the father, without considering the fact that the father was doing at the time what he thought was best. Given the incident with the 17 year old boy. I think we can all remember times when we were younger, and know that a good ass chewing was in order for our misdeeds.
But not a good choking.
And the father did what he thought was best for himself. He lost control over the boy and hoped to rein him in. Insolent or not, 17 year old boys should be able to hold an opinion that differs from their father's opinion without being choked out.
Honestly, I am appalled by your response and hope to God that you dont have children of your own!!! Ya, I think we all can remember times when we needed a good ars chewing, absolutely or even a swift crack on the ars! But for you to defend some [moderated] for choking out his son, is digusting! Is that how you want your grandchildren raised? What is off putting is you defending that man, who if you read the whole thing, abused his wife.. so way to go you to defend the abuser.. it is no wonder women are so in fear of reporting abuse, when [moderated] like you justify it!
This sounds identical to my situation with my son and his father, who he lives with! Is there any way that you can post and provide an update as to what happened because, since I have such a similar situation, I would so interested to know how your situation turned out. I'm terrified of mine and I guess I just wonder how it could go. I'm so sorry for all you had to go through. Thanks much!
This right here, this is why I have not just up and left my verbally abusive husband of 15 years. I have 4 children, three of them girls. My eldest is 14 and my husband gets really scary with her sometimes and I am terrified of even a joint custody arrangement where she would be alone with him at all.
There is no evidence of these scary incidences & I either diffuse, interject, or physically put myself between him & her.
It's so messed up, I know, but I feel that I can protect her now better than I could if she had to be staying with him feeling like she had to protect her siblings. I may pay for standing up to him later, but as an adult, I can send the kids outside or to their rooms & deal with him.
I have stopped makeing excuses to them for him. I listen to their sadness, anger, and complaints and I validate their feeling. I tell them he is wrong, that none of us deserves this and that it is my job to protect them, not the other way around.
I promised them that I will figure this out & figure out how to get out or how to get him out, but that I won't ever leave them with him.
So until I do...I'm reading, learning, planning, and waiting.
I am so sorry this happened to you, to Marc - but very glad it wasn't worse. It's horrific when somebody we love and "should" be able to trust "loses control," and yet, they DON'T, do they? After all, he didn't choke Marc (to death.)
Hopefully this will lead to better understanding between you and your sons, and a safer life for you all.
And thank God that CPS believed. Hugs to you and Marc, Kellie.
I am so sorry to hear this. I hate being in that position of helplessness...what a mess....Thank God for the wisdom Mom has gained, it is the doorway to healing...