Compulsive
Overeating, Binge Eating Conference
Bob M is the moderator.
BEGINNING
Bob M: Good evening everyone. We are
ready to begin tonight's conference on Overeating. My name is Bob
McMillan. I'm the moderator. For those of you who aren't aware, this
is Eating Disorders Awareness Week. At Concerned Counseling, we
consider Overeating, Binge Eating, as important a disorder as
Anorexia or Bulimia. Our guest tonight is Glinda West. She authored
a book entitled The Fat Fairygodmother's 5 Secrets to Being Thin
Forever: End your Addiction to Food and Start Your Life. Good
evening Glinda and welcome to the Concerned Counseling website. I'd
like to have you start by telling us a bit more about yourself and
your own experiences with overeating.
Glinda West: Hello Bob and all. I
first had an eating disorder when I was about 14 years old. I was
anorexic. By the time I finished high school I was bulimic. A few
years later, I was a compulsive overeater. I suffered from
compulsive overeating for 10 years.
Bob M: What led to your compulsive
overeating?
Glinda West: I absolutely could not
control my bingeing. When I was bulimic, I began to vomit blood and
have terrible stomach pain. I decided that being thin was not worth
dying for. When I began to eat again I was not able to control the
bingeing.
Bob M: And you say this went on for
10 years. Would you describe your overeating difficulty as stemming
from an emotional or physical problem?
Glinda West: I believe the problem
was emotional. Knowing the cause, however, was not all that
important in my overcoming it.
Bob M: Before we get into that part
though, we're you able to discover what led to your overeating?
Glinda West:I think part of it was
the deprivation I had suffered for so long by trying so hard to
control what I ate. There was a definite physiological component.
Bob M: For those just coming into
the room, Welcome. I'm Bob McMillan, the moderator. Our guest
tonight is Glinda West. She authored a book entitled The Fat
Fairygodmother's 5 Secrets to Being Thin Forever: End your Addiction
to Food and Start Your Life. Tonight's topic is Compulsive
Overeating. And I'm already receiving some audience comments, so I
want to clarify one thing before we continue. Ms. West's book and
this conference are not about "dieting". As we go on, I
think you'll be a little surprised by what you hear. When you say
that you "tried hard" to control what you ate, can you
explain that in further detail please?
Glinda West: Well, as a bulimic and
former anorexic I was always trying to control my food intake in one
way or another. However, it only led me to binge more. I wasn't
fully ready to give up "dieting."
Bob M: Over the 10 years, had you
tried diets? or any other solutions to deal with your binge eating?
Glinda West: Oh my gosh! I had tried
everything on the planet. I tried diets, diet pills, food
supplements, fasting, electric shock... you name it. Nothing worked.
Bob M: Just one other question
before we proceed. I would like to know your emotional state as the
years progressed and you weren't able to get a handle on your
eating.
Glinda West: I became severely
depressed, almost suicidal at times.
Bob M: We have a couple of audience
questions for you Glinda, then we'll proceed:
cloudburst: I haven't read your
book; however, I find the title problematic. The implication being
that one must be thin. Please explain. Thanks!
Glinda West: For most people the
ultimate goal is to be thin. Overcoming the obsessive thoughts about
food is far more important.
Bob M: And how did you reach that
point?
Glinda West: I took it step-by-step.
I challenged the obsessive thoughts and my eating patterns on a
daily basis.
Bob M: At the opening of your book,
you say "You will be liberated from dieting hell! Welcome to
your new life". The first thing you say is "food is not
the issue". Can you explain that?
Glinda West: Focusing on food will
only create more of an obsession. People need to look outside and
find a good life while they are challenging the obsession.
Bob M: In fact, you mention that you
lost many good years of your life because you were obsessing about
food. What did you do to break the obsession?
Glinda West: I tried to take the
obsessive thoughts as they would come. I would say "Stop"
in my head, and immediately substitute another thought about
something else.
Bob M: Did you keep a diary or use
some other tool to measure your thoughts?
Glinda West: No. I only tried to be
aware of what my thoughts were. As I would begin to have a thought
about food, I would immediately substitute another. This is only one
technique. The obsession will only go away when you make a
minute-to-minute effort to fill yourself with thoughts about your
life, not food.
Bob M: One of the things that I've
always heard is that when it comes to "recovery", you have
to learn self-acceptance. Did that happen to you? and what did you
come to accept?
Glinda West: To be honest, I don't
think I am that different now, than when I was suffering from the
eating disorders. I think people can often be too cerebral about
this. Behavioral changes can make all the difference.
Bob M: Ah...but one of the things
you mentioned in your book, which I want to bring up, is that you
said "The first thing I had to accept was that I was fat".
And secondly that the diets you tried just weren't working. Was that
a hard point to get too?
Glinda West: You are correct. You
must accept yourself as fat. No, it was not difficult to get to that
point. I finally decided that I was a worthwhile person no matter
what my size. If people did not want to accept me that way, that was
their problem.
Bob M: Here are a few audience
comments on what's been said so far, then we'll get to audience
questions.
CeeJay: Food is so important to me.
I can't imagine what it must be like to be free of its control.
Glinda West: It feels incredible.
Like finally being free to live!
cartoongirl: Don't you think it's
time for "overweight" people to take a stand and tell
everyone to shove it? I mean...it's like telling a person he should
feel guilty for being 7 feet tall!!!
Glinda West: Yes, but you could
waste your whole life doing that. Some people will never accept fat
people. You must get on with your life.
Kaet: How overweight were you when
you felt you needed to get a handle on it?
Glinda West: I was approximately 80
or so pounds overweight. The most important thing was that I could
barely go a minute without thinking about food. That, was the real
problem!
Rob2: Glinda, how do you stop
obsessing about food, when you have received numerous counseling
sessions and you have more knowledge than you can deal with? Also
how do you deal with the shame, especially if you are a registered
dietitian?
Glinda West: Ah, 2 problems. First,
I believe you can spend your life in counseling and never get over
the eating disorder because you just go round and round with the
causes. Enough already. There comes a time when you just have to
take action. Secondly, I feel for you having an eating disorder with
the career you have. Look to the future, you can beat this.
Concentrate on that and don't worry what others think.
nbp: So you're saying that you don't
feel it's necessary or even beneficial to address underlying
emotional/psychological problems? I was under the impression that
this was the most "mainstream" method of dealing w/ eating
disorders. Why do you feel that your approach is better?
Glinda West: I think you can get
lost forever in therapy. If you take action today, you can begin
extinguishing the eating disorder in a relatively short time. I may
still not be psychologically perfect, but who cares? I beat it
that's what matters.
CeeJay: Was secrecy and hiding food
part of your struggle? I seem to enjoy the secrecy..like a game.
Glinda West: I used to love the
secrecy.
Bob M: Before we go further, because
I'm getting some audience questions on where to purchase the book.
It is not available in bookstores, but you can get it through
Glinda's website. Can you give that to us please Glinda?
Glinda West: Thank you. www.fatfairygodmother.com
Bob M: And while she's typing that
out, I read the book. It's about 50 pages.. and a very good read.
Glinda West: I'm glad you liked it.
Bob M: So we've gotten to the point
where you decided to stop obsessing about food. What did you do
next?
Glinda West: Well, I couldn't stop
immediately. It took constant vigilance. Then I began to stock up
food. I found by accident, that when I stocked all of my favorite
binge foods, so much of them that I couldn't possibly run out, I
began to binge less.
Bob M: What was the reason for that?
Glinda West: Because if I wanted to
eat cookies and there was half a bag left. Guess how much I would
eat? The entire bag. However, if my favorite cookie supply was
virtually endless, I would stop on my own.
Bob M: So essentially what you are
saying is that your favorite foods were no longer "very
special". And when you had everything you wanted around you,
food-wise that is, you were able to reach a point where you said
"enough is enough".
Glinda West: Well, I still loved
them. I still do. But the urgency and deprivation were no longer
there. Also, I began to want different foods.
Bob M: And the different foods were
lower in calories and healthier for you?
Glinda West: Not always. Counting
calories or fat grams was irrelevant to me. I ate what I wanted.
Bob M: So are you saying, you just
ate less?
Glinda West: Yes, I did not stuff
myself as much because I could have whatever I wanted, whenever I
wanted, and I did not let myself feel guilty about what I ate. The
important thing was to minimize the obsessing over it. And to lessen
the amount of time I thought about food.
Bob M: The second thing you
did...and I can sort of hear a groan from the audience right
now...is begin exercising.
Glinda West: Wrong. I hate
"exercising." Never exercise to lose weight or burn
calories. I found my "inner athlete." I found the sporting
life. I found that I liked sports. Even an unathletic, overweight
girl like me, found a sport she liked doing. I began doing the sport
for the fun and challenge of it - not to lose weight. The side
benefit was that my metabolism became more efficient.
Bob M: Your statements are spurring
audience comments and questions. Here are a few:
CeeJay: I very much understand the
urgency and deprivation feelings. Stocking up on food sort of
lessens the panic of it being all gone or taken away, I guess.
Rob2: Exercise is the KEY to it all.
I will not talk to my patients at all about weight loss unless they
address the activity factor. It changes your whole frame of mind. On
the days that I run, I do not overeat.
Connie21: So that is the answer just
keep loads and loads of food on hand? So the key to beating
obsessing over food is just to allow yourself whatever you want,
whenever you want it?
Glinda West: If you keep loads and
loads of food on-hand, I guarantee you there will be a calmness that
wasn't there before. This is only one aspect. Please don't take it
out of context. I cannot condense the entire book in one hour.
nbp: My husband overeats as a means
of dealing with stress and depression. He is overweight, continuing
to gain, and beginning to experience health difficulties such as
high blood pressure. I have expressed to him my concern for his
health and happiness, but he refuses to seek counseling. What steps
can I take (w/o nagging) to help him?
Glinda West: I don't know if you can
do it for him. Sometimes people have to come to this readiness on
their own. Even when I knew the secret to overcoming the eating
disorder, I took my time, because I was not completely ready to give
up food.
Bob M: Was there something, an
event, that brought you to that point? Or was it merely a
realization, either immediately or over time?
Glinda West: Well, there is that
funny story in the book. That kind of did it for me. Supreme
humiliation was kind of a good motivator. I was also just plain sick
of thinking about food and my weight.
Bob M: Glinda's book is: The Fat
Fairygodmother's 5 Secrets to Being Thin Forever: End your Addiction
to Food and Start Your Life. You can purchase it at: www.fatfairygodmother.com
So far, we've touched on:
- Secret 1: Get a life...don't make food your life.
- Secret 2: Make food and your weight
"non-issues". Start thinking about other parts of your
life...and take action on the food part.
- Secret 3: STOP DIETING. Get off the dieting yo-yo.
Glinda West: The ultimate goal is to
learn to eat like a normal person again according to your body's
cues.
Bob M: And you mention Glinda, that
dieting is not good for you or your body. Why?
Glinda West: Dieting will only cause
obsessive thinking about food. It is always a losing proposition.
Also, you will slow your metabolism and end up gaining weight on
less food.
Bob M: Secret 4: Find your
inner athlete. Find activities that you enjoy doing...and do them
for yourself, not to lose weight, but for the challenge and
enjoyment of them.
Glinda West: Exactly. Bob
Bob M: And Secret 5: LEARN TO EAT
NORMALLY. And this may be the hardest step of all, right Glinda?
Glinda West: Yes. Many people who
are compulsive overeaters have no clues about hunger and fullness.
This does take some time.
Bob M: How did you rediscover
them...the feeling of hunger and fullness? and what did that take to
accomplish?
Glinda West: Like I said, I started
by allowing myself to eat at will. When the urgency to binge began
to subside, when I knew I could eat whatever I wanted for the rest
of my life, I began to feel hunger and fullness more often. Also,
paying attention to my life, not concentrating on food, but on other
activities, helped me feel hunger more often. I wasn't standing in
front of the refrigerator as much.
Bob M: At the beginning of tonight's
conference, you said you had been through anorexia, bulimia, then
compulsive overeating. That last phase, bingeing, went on for 10
years. How long did it take you to get through this 5-Secret
process?
Glinda West: It took approximately
6-8 months before I knew the obsession was lessening for good. I was
bingeing less frequently and did not have the urge to stuff myself
beyond fullness as much. At about the same time, I noticed I was not
thinking about food as much. The psychological changes continued for
about another 8 months during which I was losing weight gradually,
but consistently. I lost almost all of the 80 or so pounds during
that 16 months - really without effort. I am currently 5'3" and
weigh about 105 pounds or so. My anorexic weight was 86 pounds. I do
not obsess about food in any way. It has really become unimportant
to me. I don't think the process needs to take this long for
everyone. I had to experiment. Remember, I discovered this method,
by accident. There was no book for me.
Bob M: Here are a couple of
comments:
Ceejay: Before this is over, I want
to say that I admire your will and determination to overcome your
problems with food. It gives me the hope that I needed tonight and a
renewed will to fight. Thanks.
Glinda West: You are absolutely
capable of this. I am no different from you.
cartoongirl: Health clubs and
shrinks are capitalizing on your guilt and vanity. It's time for
people to see that the real problem lies in prejudice and if society
wants its people to be thin, then it had better demand more from
genetic medicine! Society WANTS us to feel shame...it controls
us...makes us spend money to fix us.
Glinda West: Forget about society,
its too big to change. This is your only life. Be happy and work on
yourself.
Diane: Even if you have the
knowledge to eat normally, it doesn't mean you will do it on a daily
basis.
Glinda West: I eat more on some
days, less on others. The important thing is not how much I eat, but
how much I think about food. Don't forget this.
Bob M: One last question from me
tonight. Do you ever worry about slipping back into the overeating
habits, or have the new regimens become ingrained...and this is the
new you...the everyday you?
Glinda West: I know I will never
"slip back" because there is no deprivation in how I eat.
I am not drawn to food obsessively. I enjoy it. Anybody want to take
me to dinner?
Bob M: I want to thank Glinda for
coming tonight and sharing her experiences and knowledge with us.
And thank you to everyone in the audience for participating. I hope
you found the conference helpful and inspiring.
Glinda West: Thank you Bob for
inviting me.
Bob M: Glinda's book can be
purchased on her website. It's called "The Fat Fairygodmother's
5 Secrets to Being Thin Forever: End your Addiction to Food and
Start Your Life". Her web addy is: www.fatfairygodmother.com.
It's $9.95.
Glinda West: Goodnight, and know
there is hope for all of you.
Bob M: Good Night everyone.
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