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Marijuana and night panic attacks

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I was so glad to see that others have developed anxiety attacks as a result of marijuana use nearly a year ago. People in general have not understood my attacks, why I have them and how to deal with them. I had a smoke after a year of not smoking marijuana and did not sleep for 3 days afterwards with the fear that I would never wake up - this is when my anxiety attacks began. I truly believed that I was going to die. I had attacks at least once a day for 4 months afterwards and could not function properly. I couldn't relax, work , or go out, I had attacks in the middle of the night , while watching videos, at pubs etc etc. I was also diagnosed with a sleep disorder not long afterwards as my attacks often occurred in the middle of the night and I had a fear of falling asleep. Although the attacks have decreased I often feel one coming on- and I am wondering! how I can prevent one from occurring without taking chemical medication?

A. It is not so much preventing them, it is learning to lose your fear of them. Even though they can feel very violent they will not hurt you. The nocturnal panic attacks happen on the change in consciousness...as you are going to sleep or moving from REM to deep sleep, or deep sleep back to REM. They have nothing to do with dreams or nightmares but happen as we said on the change of consciousness. Many people with Panic Disorder have the nocturnal attacks. It is not so much a sleep disorder per se.

I will still occasionally have nocturnal panic attacks, but because I am not frightened of them anymore I just roll over and go back to sleep. So What!!

We can refer you to a Cognitive Behavioral therapist if you wish. A therapist can teach you how to lose your fear of them and how to turn of the 'What if' thinking. If you would like a referral can you advise us of the name of the Country/State/City/Town you live in?

Am I too young to be having anxiety attacks ...

Q. I'm 16 years old. I think I've been having anxiety attacks. At first I thought I was feeling like this because I'm hypoglycemic because I would feel worse was after drinking coffee or eating sugar. I told my doctor and they said to contact them if it gets worse. I've been feeling really anxious lately and I'm not sure if I've been having "anxiety attacks." I read your website and I can relate to a lot of the symptoms. It's pretty scary, and my parents just think I'm stressed with being a senior with all it's responsibilities. Sometimes it gets so bad I can't do anything.. and I feel like I'm going to die and I can't breathe. I feel like I have no control over my body, like I'm separate from it. Do you think I'm too young to be having anxiety attacks? And are there any things I can do for myself to relax when the feeling comes over me? How long do most attacks occur? And can people have anxiety attacks without knowing why exactly they're anxious? If you could help me out that would be great.

A. You are not too young. Children as young as 8 years old can experience panic attacks. Have you spoken with your parents and doctor and told then you are becoming worse. If not we do advise you to do so asap.

Panic/anxiety attacks can last anywhere from 30 seconds to 90 minutes. Even after it is over people may then only just drop back into high anxiety. Many of us initially don't understand why the panic/anxiety attacks occurs, but the more knowledge you have about the panic / anxiety attacks the more you become aware of why they are happening. Some people actually dissociate first and then panic (see the dissociation page on our website) while other people begin to become aware of how their thoughts trigger the panic/anxiety attacks.

All of us need to learn how they are being triggered. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy can teach you how to do this. You my also want to read the article on our home page 'So What is so good about CBT'. This may help you. Can you speak with your parents and even show them some of the information on our website. This will help them understand exactly what you maybe experiencing. We can refer you onto a CBT therapist if you wish. To do so we need to know the name of the Country/State/City/Town you live in.

Prevention ...

Q. About a week ago I think I had my first panic attack. It happened so suddenly. I had a flash through my body and it felt like someone gave me a bear hug, which caused my heart to beat very fast and I could hardly breathe. The doctor told me I had a hypoglycemic reaction which caused me to hyperventilate but my blood sugar wasn't very low at all and I am not diabetic. Since the first episode I have had three more in one week. I am very glad I read your website because I really thought I was going crazy and was going to die. All the information on your site has made me feel better about what is happening to me and I feel like I can get this to end soon.

One question, how long can the panic attacks last and can being so wound up cause someone to get sick.

A. They can last anywhere from 30 seconds to 90 minutes. Some people will remain highly anxious afterwards. As to why we feel so sick. We do. This is part of it all unfortunately, but the anxiety about your symptoms only makes it worse. Understanding and managing panic/anxiety producing thoughts is prevention in action!

Can you speak with your doctor again to confirm you are experiencing panic/anxiety? Once your doctor has confirmed you are experiencing panic/anxiety you are in an ideal position to prevent so much of the suffering that can accompany panic attacks. Read, as you are doing, as much as you can about the subject. The secret of it is to lose the fear of the panic attacks. Even though the panic attacks can feel very violent they do not hurt us. It is the fear of them which creates the disabilities associated to them. Can you read part one of the article on our site, 'So What is so good about CBT?'. This may assist you in helping to manage them.

If you need to, we can refer you onto a Cognitive Behavioral Therapist who can help you do this. To do so we need to know the name of the Country/State/City/Town you live in.

Meditation / seeing colors...?

Q. I am confused about what is supposed to happen during meditation. Could you let me know what I should expect at each stage of meditation. I have heard/read people see colors. Where does this "sensation" occur during meditation?

I have tried meditating or at least sitting quietly for a few minutes. Doing that helps a lot in relaxing. I need relaxation for the tension I have in my neck and shoulders. I think a lot of my anxiety actually comes from being so tense. The more uncomfortable they are, the more I tend to tighten them to get rid of it. (I know it is a strange way of getting rid of it.) My shoulders stay hunched. My husband will say, "Lower your shoulders." I realize I am walking around with them up around my ears.

A. Only 25% of people who meditate see colors. The other 75% don't so there is no need to worry if you don't see them. It is difficult to advise you of what you may or may not experience at the various levels of meditation. It is very individual. Some people can have an experience as being as 'light as a feather' or feelings of heaviness, some people may reach the thought free state. There can be numerous experiences across the whole spectrum of meditation BUT some people never have any. And that is ok. We use meditation simply as a relaxation technique and if you relax which is usually indicated by your breath slowly down naturally, then this is all that matters.

You do need to spend more than a few minutes meditating. We recommend people meditate for 20 minutes at least once a day, preferably twice a day.

Your tension is coming from the way you are thinking. The way you think creates the tension and anxiety and the more you worry about how tense you are the more anxious you become. Besides meditating, are you working on your thinking by using a Cognitive Technique? Meditation can assist you in increasing your cognitive skills. This is the way to permanent recovery.

Nocturnal Panic Attacks and trips to A & E !

Q. I awoke this evening to yet another of my nightly panic attacks....your web site is very informative and makes for good reading when one is waiting for their heart rate to return to normal!

I have had a serious problem with panic attacks for 3 years now. Although I am taking medication and have somewhat learned to live with it, I still wish I could find a way to not have to get up in the middle of the night 2-3 times a week, drive over to the nearest hospital and sit in the parking lot "just in case" this time its real. I have found that the quickest way for me to stop the attack is to get up, get dressed, and drive somewhere, whether that be driving over to the hospital parking lot, or just aimlessly around town. I would LOVE any other ideas or tips of exercises I could perform to help stop the panic attack as quickly as possible.

A. The secret of recovery is to lose your fear of the panic attacks. It is quite common for people to spend the night in the car parks of public hospitals, 'just in case'. The reality is though, no matter how violent the panic attacks feel they will not hurt you in any way. We all wait for the 'big one', but it simply doesn't happen. It is the fear which creates all the ongoing problems including the disabilities such as Agoraphobia, prescribed drug addiction etc.

Nocturnal attacks were part of my own panic disorder, so I do understand what they feel like. Now that have lost my fear of them I don't care if I have one or not. 'So What!' I may still have one if I am tired or stressed and when they wake me up all I need say to myself is, 'an attack' and I roll over and go back to sleep. So What!

The research on the nocturnal attacks show they happen on the change of consciousness as we are going to sleep or from REM to deep sleep or deep sleep back to REM or as we wake up. The research also shows they have nothing to do with dreams or nightmares. It is simply an effect of the change of consciousness.

Recovery means understanding exactly what is happening to you and understanding and accepting that your panic attacks will not hurt you. You are living breathing proof of this along with other people throughout the world...including me! Recovery also means not buying into the fear and the anxiety producing thoughts and letting the panic attacks happen. This means total non resistance to them. It is the fear and the resistance which keeps it all going. Once you can simply let the panic attacks happen they disappear as quickly as they come. Instead of 'what if' it becomes 'So what'! - This is simplified of course and most of us use Cognitive Behavioral Skills to help us reach this point.

If you go to our website and check these pages : 1. 'About Anxiety Disorders - Dissociation' 2. 'Research - An analysis of an uncured panic attack' 3. Questions and Answers - 'D' for Dissociation, these pages can help you understand your experience.

We can refer you onto a CBT therapist if you wish. We will need to know the name of the Country/State/City/Town you live in.

Panic Disorder & OCD.

Q. When I first developed anxiety it took a week or so before anybody knew what was wrong with me. I was scared to death that I was going insane. I ought to know better, but even now this is what frequently triggers my anxieties - the fear of losing control of myself.

When I feel nervous I feel like I'm coming unhinged, and I worry about what might happen to me, which of course makes me more nervous. When I read in the paper about what happened in Colorado or a story like that, I get so nervous and wonder if that could happen to me.

I get easily annoyed when I'm nervous, but I've never been an even remotely violent person, or done anything violent in my life, so I don't know why I should be scared of that. But that's what happens. When I get nervous I start to think about how I'm "crazy" for having this problem, and wonder, could "crazy" lead to "psychotic"? Do any other people react in this way, or am I genuinely nuts?

Is my fear of going nuts general anxiety, or is it a specific phobia?

A. The fear of going insane, of losing control are two of the major fears associated to Panic Disorder. You are not 'nuts' and no, it will not lead you into a psychotic episode. In Panic Disorder, the fear of losing control is 'generic' in so far as people don't qualify it in terms of losing control and hurting other people.

The fear of losing control and hurting other people is a recognized form of the Obsessive Compulsive Disorder spectrum. and is a very common fear. People don't talk about it because they are frightened they maybe committed to a psychiatric facility or reported to the police. This does not happen. The thought is of course frightening and this is what gives it the power to scare you.

Many people with panic disorder (the fear of having a panic attack) can have symptoms from the other anxiety disorders, OCD, social anxiety and generalized anxiety disorder.

People whose primary diagnosis of an Anxiety Disorder are very passive people and are not violent. This is also true of the majority of people who have a psychotic illness such as schizophrenia. Community perceptions of the major mental illness group is incorrect and demonstrates the extraordinary lack of understanding about these illnesses. And it is this lack of understanding which fuels so much of the ongoing stigma and shame associated to all mental health problems. It is a tragedy in itself.

Can we suggest we refer you onto a Cognitive Behavioral Therapist. They will be able to make a full assessment of your primary anxiety disorder and symptoms of the other disorders. They would then be able to offer you treatment in the form of CBT. This is the most effective treatment in the long term for panic disorder. It is important you tell the therapist about your fear that you may lose control and hurt someone/people so that they can help you learn to manage the thought so it does not generate ongoing anxiety. If you would like a referral can you let us know the name of the Country/State/City/Town you live in.

The Big One...!

Q. I am a 34 year old woman and have had panic attacks and anxiety for about 15 years. They are usually very well controlled except during some times of extreme stress. I have trained myself in how to handle them when they come on so I can usually short-circuit them before they get too bad. When I first started with them, sleep was an escape. Now, however, my situation is changing. Since I was pregnant with my first child I now have occasional attacks at night which awaken me and I am in a full blown attack. These are harder to control because they are so developed by the time I wake up. I have them about every 6 months but am fearful about waking up with one all the time. I am most fearful when my husband is out of town and I am alone. I am anxious all day long and then am afraid to go to sleep. I am afraid that I will awaken with one of these attacks and won't be able to handle it alone, it will be "The Big One". Also, the technique that I use to handle the attacks during the day is to keep very busy and when I lay down to sleep, I am not capable of using that technique to ward off attacks. I feel that overall I handle my anxiety very well, but this problem is getting worse and I don't know how to handle it. Is it common for people with panic to live their lives in fear of the "Big One"? I have also read that panic "burns out" with age and that I will have these less as I age. Is this true? I am very fearful of what will happen to me when I get older and perhaps won't have my parents/husband to support me. Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated.

A. The secret of recovery is to lose the fear of your attacks. We all think 'what if the next one is going to be 'the big one'! It won't be. No matter how violent our attacks feel nothing happens to us. Actually this is the irony. It is our fear/s which lead to the perpetuation of our experience and to the secondary conditions such as Agoraphobia, depression etc. It is not the attacks or anxiety as such.

Trying to keep busy, although it can help, is a distraction 'technique' and is why you haven't fully recovered. It hasn't taught you to lose your fear of the expereince. Once you can lose your fear of your experience, you will be able to do as I do now, that is roll over and go back to sleep!!

It is difficult to say if the panic attacks become less as we get older. We have never seen any research which shows this. We would guess it is not so much a 'natural' easing, but more of a reduction in fear. Once people lose the fear of their experience, the attacks do become less and less but they may occasionally happen during times of stress. But with the loss of the fear, it is more of an attitude of 'So What' and the occasional attack does not impact on peoples' lives.

The research on the nocturnal attacks show they happen on the change of consciousness as we are going to sleep or from REM to deep sleep or deep sleep back to REM or as we wake up. The research also shows they have nothing to do with dreams or nightmares. It is simply the magnitude of the change in consciousness.

For those of us who have the nocturnal attacks we usually also have the ability to dissociate. This can happen during the day or evening before we go to bed. In many cases the ability to dissociate can lead to feelings of panic/anxiety. Dissociation is also known as 'self induced trance state/s and one of the easiest ways to induce these states is by staring. Either into space, at a traffic light, the road, the car in front, the tv, computer, book etc. Research shows those of us who have this ability can induce a trance state within a split second and not be aware we are doing so. Fluroscent lights can also induce these states.

Dissociation is on a scale (e.g zero to ten) and from our own research people who have spontaneous 'attacks' are at about the four and half to five on the scale.

Recovery means for us : understanding how we are dissociating during the day, breaking our stare, not buying into the fear and the anxiety producing thoughts and letting the symptoms happen. This means total non resistance to them. It is the fear and the resistance which keeps it all going. Once you can simply let the symptoms happen they disappear as quickly as they come. This also applies in part to the nocturnal panic attacks. If you are woken from sleep, let the attack happen no matter how violent it feels and don't buy into the anxiety producing thoughts. Learn to develop an attitude from 'what if' to 'So what'! - This is simplified of course and most of us use Cognitive Behavioral Skills to help us reach this point.

If you go to our website and check these pages : 1. 'About Anxiety Disorders - Dissociation' 2. 'Research - An analysis of an uncured panic attack' 3. Questions and Answers - 'D' for Dissociation, these pages may help you understand your overall experience.

We can refer you to a Cognitive Behavioral therapist. A therapist would be able to teach you how to lose your fear. To refer you we do need to know the name of the Country/State/City/Town you live in.

How can I help my 8 year old son...?

Q. A few months ago my 8 year old son started becoming hyper about situations with no warning. I would walk him to a friends house and go to leave and he would panic and insist I stay. If I did not stay, he would cry and become hysterical and then leave with me. This was a complete personality reversal in a very outgoing boy.

This panic comes whenever a change is introduced and there is no time for him to adjust. How can I better get him to cope. This behavior is effecting his stomach. The doctor believes he is working on an ulcer. It has not as yet been confirmed by upper GI. But the symptoms are constant. He lives on Tums once the panic starts.

What can I do for him? What is the best form of counseling if there is some avenue? I have a very intelligent child, very athletic, usually very friendly, who is now starting to become a momma's boy or worse a recluse.

A. Can we suggest you find a Cognitive Behavioral psychologist who specializes in Anxiety disorders in children. We have an article on our website http://www.paems.com.au/newsletter/news/int2.html with Ron Rapee which may be of help for you. Ron is one of the leading Child AD specialists here in Australia. If you are in the USA you may wish to visit the website http://www.cognitivetherapy.com They have a list of CBT therapists in the USA and you may be able to find one in your State and/or you could email the webmaster of the site and they may also be able to assist you.

We have also included a list of websites which deal with childhood anxiety.

http://www.klis.com/chandler/pamphlet/panic/part1.htm

http://www.psych.med.umich.edu/web/aacap/factsFam/anxious.htm

http://www.aacap.org/factsFam/panic.htm

http://www.mentalhealth.com/p20-grp.html#Mood

http://www.pacificcoast.net/~kstrong/school.html

http://www.algy.com/anxiety/NEWS//review9.html

http://www.algy.com/anxiety/children.html

Biofeedback does it work...?

Q. I'm looking for a bit of information. I've a panic /anxiety disorder which I've been trying to deal with for a number of years. I've recently seen a therapist that is advising that EEG Biofeedback Training is the way to go. Have you heard of it? Is it successful?

A. It may help you learn to bring your breathing and heart rate down, but it is not going to go to the cause and that is the way you think. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is the only therapy which has been demonstrated to be the most effective in the long term for panic disorder. This is how we and many of our clients have recovered.

If you would like a referral to a CBT therapist can you advise the name of the country/state/city/town you live in.

CBT vs Graded Exposure..

Q. What is the difference between CBT and say graded exposure desensitization) to things that make a person anxious/panic such as in social phobia?

A. CBT teaches you how to manage your panic/anxiety producing thoughts and then you go back into situations and places that you have been avoiding to develop your cognitive skills.

Graded Exposure means you go back into situations and places that you have been avoiding without the benefit of Cognitive Retraining. You simply go back into the avoided situation/s/place/s and stay there until you feel better.

How can we help our 35 year old son...

Q. Our 35 year old son has had several 'attacks' over a number of years which we believe are anxiety attacks. However, he does not see any real problem. He has had heart stress tests done recently following one episode. These revealed nothing abnormal, but he was admitted with an irregular heart beat. He also drinks too much. How can we encourage him to seek treatment for his disability? We are afraid for his well being as he has spoken of suicide on occasions. He is single, has a girlfriend, and has his own home. We, his parents, are become depressed thinking about him and being unable to help.

A. There is not much you can do to help your son. If he feels he hasn't got a problem then he may not want to listen. Many men don't want to admit to an anxiety disorder. They find it very embarrassing. This may be the problem.

You can perhaps tell him you are both worried about him, his drinking and his thoughts of suicide, and you were looking on the Net and found our site and after reading it wondered if he may be having panic attacks. You could perhaps print of some of the information about the Disorders/symptoms and ask him to read it.

You could also have a quiet word to his girlfriend and give her the information. She could speak with him and/or leave it leave it on the table etc.

We realize it is very difficult for you, but he does need to admit to himself he has a problem and needs treatment before much can be done in the way of helping him.

The Big One...!

Q. I am a 34 year old woman and have had panic attacks and anxiety for about 15 years. They are usually very well controlled except during some times of extreme stress. I have trained myself in how to handle them when they come on so I can usually short-circuit them before they get too bad. When I first started with them, sleep was an escape. Now, however, my situation is changing. Since I was pregnant with my first child I now have occasional attacks at night which awaken me and I am in a full blown attack. These are harder to control because they are so developed by the time I wake up. I have them about every 6 months but am fearful about waking up with one all the time. I am most fearful when my husband is out of town and I am alone. I am anxious all day long and then am afraid to go to sleep. I am afraid that I will awaken with one of these attacks and won't be able to handle it alone, it will be "The Big One". Also, the technique that I use to handle the attacks during the day is to keep very busy and when I lay down to sleep, I am not capable of using that technique to ward off attacks. I feel that overall I handle my anxiety very well, but this problem is getting worse and I don't know how to handle it. Is it common for people with panic to live their lives in fear of the "Big One"? I have also read that panic "burns out" with age and that I will have these less as I age. Is this true? I am very fearful of what will happen to me when I get older and perhaps won't have my parents/husband to support me. Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated.

A. The secret of recovery is to lose the fear of your attacks. We all think 'what if the next one is going to be 'the big one'! It won't be. No matter how violent our attacks feel nothing happens to us. Actually this is the irony. It is our fear/s which lead to the perpetuation of our experience and to the secondary conditions such as Agoraphobia, depression etc. It is not the attacks or anxiety as such.

Trying to keep busy, although it can help, is a distraction 'technique' and is why you haven't fully recovered. It hasn't taught you to lose your fear of the experience. Once you can lose your fear of your experience, you will be able to do as I do now, that is roll over and go back to sleep!!

It is difficult to say if the panic attacks become less as we get older. We have never seen any research which shows this. We would guess it is not so much a 'natural' easing, but more of a reduction in fear. Once people lose the fear of their experience, the attacks do become less and less but they may occasionally happen during times of stress. But with the loss of the fear, it is more of an attitude of 'So What' and the occasional attack does not impact on peoples' lives.

The research on the nocturnal attacks show they happen on the change of consciousness as we are going to sleep or from REM to deep sleep or deep sleep back to REM or as we wake up. The research also shows they have nothing to do with dreams or nightmares. It is simply the magnitude of the change in consciousness.

For those of us who have the nocturnal attacks we usually also have the ability to dissociate. This can happen during the day or evening before we go to bed. In many cases the ability to dissociate can lead to feelings of panic/anxiety. Dissociation is also known as 'self induced trance state/s and one of the easiest ways to induce these states is by staring. Either into space, at a traffic light, the road, the car in front, the tv, computer, book etc. Research shows those of us who have this ability can induce a trance state within a split second and not be aware we are doing so. Fluorescent lights can also induce these states.

Dissociation is on a scale (e.g zero to ten) and from our own research people who have spontaneous 'attacks' are at about the four and half to five on the scale.

Recovery means for us : understanding how we are dissociating during the day, breaking our stare, not buying into the fear and the anxiety producing thoughts and letting the symptoms happen. This means total non resistance to them. It is the fear and the resistance which keeps it all going. Once you can simply let the symptoms happen they disappear as quickly as they come. This also applies in part to the nocturnal panic attacks. If you are woken from sleep, let the attack happen no matter how violent it feels and don't buy into the anxiety producing thoughts. Learn to develop an attitude from 'what if' to 'So what'! - This is simplified of course and most of us use Cognitive Behavioral Skills to help us reach this point.

If you go to our website and check these pages : 1. 'About Anxiety Disorders - Dissociation' 2. 'Research - An analysis of an uncured panic attack' 3. Questions and Answers - 'D' for Dissociation, these pages may help you understand your overall experience.

We can refer you to a Cognitive Behavioral therapist. A therapist would be able to teach you how to lose your fear. To refer you we do need to know the name of the Country/State/City/Town you live in.

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