interviews
Bruce Elkin on Simple
Living
Bruce Elkin, 55, is a simple living coach and a
consultant to individuals, organizations and communities trying to live simple,
yet rich lives in harmony with the systems of life that sustain us all. He is
the author of the booklet, "Co-Creating Our Common Future" and the
forthcoming book, "Living Well, Living Deeply." He is also Director
of The
Earthways Institute.
Tammie: What drew you
to the Environmental movement?
Bruce: In 1973, I was
hired by the Calgary Y to develop an environmental Ed curriculum for their new
outdoor center. I did a survey of available programs, was disappointed by the
either/or approach I found prevalent among those who thought hard science based
conceptual understanding was the key and those who thought sensory appreciation
and feelings for nature were the key. Then someone gave me a copy of Steve Van
Matre's "Acclimatization: A Sensory and Conceptual Approach to Ecological
Involvement." I read all SVM's stuff, joined the Institute for Earth
Education, eventually became the senior trainer and, that was the start. Later
I developed my own approach incorporating Van Matre's ideas and ideas about
personal empowerment, growth and transformation. Over the years, this led me to
set up the EW Inst.
Tammie: In
examining your own experiences with 'simple living,' what have you found the
most significant challenges and rewards to be?
Bruce: The most
challenging aspect is how to make a living. I've been living simply most of the
time since 1973, trying to keep my income at a "just enough" level.
But, figuring out what "just enough" is, is tough. Sometimes I make
enough, sometimes I don't. The most troublesome challenge is walking the fine
line between voluntary simplicity and involuntary poverty.
The other challenge is not giving in to the opportunities
to make the big bucks. A couple of times, I've headed off to teach myself new
skills (coaching, consulting, etc) and did so well I was tempted to just keep
at it to bring in the big bucks, sock them away in an FI fund (a la Your Money
or Your Life?), but I found that when I did that kind of work, my expenses went
way up (marketing, promotion, new clothes, nice car, air fare for travel,
hotels in the city, all the things you need to do to appear a successful
consultant). In the end, I didn't take home much more money than I did when I
lived close to the bone, so I bagged most of that stuff. Now I only do work for
groups I like and only occasionally.
The thing I like best about living simply is the time and
freedom it gives me to create (write, relationships,) and to be in the natural
world appreciating where I live.
Tammie: In your
article, "Living Well, Living Deeply," you assert that lasting change
requires "more than mere surface changes in behavior
" but
re-arranging "the deeper elements underlying our actions." If you
were to explain what you mean by this to an adolescent, what would you
say?
Bruce: There are some
things that adolescents can't or are not ready to hear, especially those under
15 years. There is a brain growth spurt at +/-14. Before that growth happens,
they are still very concretely focused. Some of the structural stuff I work
with just goes over their heads. When I do talk to older adolescents about this
stuf,f I talk about the difference between long term goals/desires that really
matter and short-term demands and how to organize your response to short-term
demands so it both gives you what you want now and supports your long term
desires. They usually get that.
Tammie: What are the
"basic processes underlying the ability to create?"
Bruce: The basic
processes underlying the ability to create are:
1. Knowing what you want, being able to envision a
completed result in enough detail that you would recognize it if you created
it.
2. Knowing what you have, being able to ground yourself
in an objective and accurate description (not judgment!) of current reality,
i.e. where you are starting from, what you have working for you, against you,
what skills, resources, talents, experience etc you have or do not have.
3. The capacity to hold Vision and Current Reality
together in your mind at the same time and to live/work comfortably in the gap
between Vision and Reality as you craft your creation/desired result step by
step.
4. A hierarchical set of choices wherein day to day
choices support strategic goals and objectives and strategic goals support
long-term purposes and your life mission.
5. The capacity to learn from doing, to try, note
results, learn, make adjustments and try again.
6. Momentum: through consistent action, even wrong
actions, you keep the momentum flowing. Over time it becomes a force which
helps you move toward completion. The key is to always know your next steps,
where you're going after you've done the step you're on now.
7. Completion: finishing fully, adding touches and
details, making the creation fit the vision in your mind of what it looks like
done.
8. Receiving: becoming a non-attached observer/critic of
your creation. Being willing to live with its greatness and its faults without
seeing either as reflective on you.
9. Using the energy of completion to begin your next
creation.
Tammie: Has there
been a particular transformative experience in your own life?
Bruce: I'm not a fan
of cataclysmic theories of change. I don't think in terms of breakthroughs to
higher levels (except in terms of chaos theory's bifurcations, but those are
beyond my full understanding), I don't think in terms of quick fixes. I think
more in terms of how nature usually works, slowly, consistently, patiently
building things up over time. That's also how most art, literature, music, etc
is created, step by step, poco a poco. My life has worked that way. No big
quakes or shifts, just slow, incrementally building, growing learning over
time. Eventually I've found myself miles from where I began.
Tammie: Do you
believe that it's possible that we may be experiencing a global 'quake?'
Bruce: It is possible
that the earth system is becoming so chaotic that we're about to experience a
chaotic bifurcation, but I don't think anyone really knows if this is true or
not. I think it is more likely that we're gonna continue muddling on, new
things will emerge out of the mix, some will take, some will fall away and
we'll gradually move closer to what we all really want. Wendell Berry said
about learning to live where you are - Love the neighbors you have, not the
ones you wish you had.) I think the key thing for all of us to do is not put
our faith in big, sudden shifts but to settle in to our selves, our communities
and our world for the long haul. We need to learn to be happy with and to want
what we have! We need to love the world we have and work hard to bring into
being the things we want in that world. And ourselves!
Tammie: What concerns
you the most about our 'collective future,' what gives you the most
hope?
Bruce: Not much
concerns me about our future, because all the world is way out of my control. I
am hopeful that the human spirit, which is part of nature's grand, intelligent
complexity, will soar high enough to help our species realize that we are,
indeed, just plain citizens of the biotic community and to begin to re-invent
our lives, business and communities to fit into that biotic community in
harmony with the systems that sustain all life. We may have to do some more
real dumb stuff, screw up big time here and there, before everyone "gets
it". But, I think we will, eventually. By we I mean humanity, our kids and
their kids and their kids kids. In the meantime, I'm trying very much to enjoy
what I have, the only life I'm likely to get.
top |
next | interviews index
home | birthquake | about me
| sageplace vision | words of wisdom
chief seattle |
life letters | psychotherapy | essays |
thoughts | interviews
where have the frogs gone |
chat schedule | books |
send page |
|